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	<title>Comments on: Septic Systems Slaughter Stripers: CLF Fights Back</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Iarrapino</title>
		<link>http://www.clf.org/blog/massachusetts/septic-systems-slaughter-stripers-clf-fights-back/#comment-2306</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Iarrapino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, Fritz.  The article quotes George Hampson, an Oceanographer from NOAA.  His analysis of the likely source of the nitrogen enrichment responsible for this and other fish kills--septic systems--and the explanation of how the ecosystems work is entirely consistent with the conclusions reached in the heavily-detailed, peer-reviewed scientific studies of Little Pond and other impaired estuaries on the Cape completed by the Massachusetts Estuaries Project (MEP) as reflected in the Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDLs) approved by EPA.  CLF has reviewed these closely as they are the subject of our lawsuits.  The &quot;comprehensive analysis&quot; spans hundreds of pages so a full recounting on this blog would be impractical, but I encourage you to reach out to the MEP or to EPA if you want to learn more; the TMDLs are also available on the web: 
http://www.mass.gov/dep/water/resources/tmdls.htm

I think you will find that the analysis in this blog is consistent with the conclusions reached in those scientific reports.  Further, it is consistent with the conclusions of Town officials themselves who are also quoted in the story.

It is entirely likely that fertilizer run-off played a role in the nitrogen overload that led to this fish kill and even more likely that the elevated temperatures played a role too.  The former is among the causes identified in the TMDLs as are the roles of tidal circulation and atmospheric deposition.  As your own comments acknowledge, however, and consistent with the conclusions of scientists at SMAST, MEP, EPA, and NOAA, there is no escaping the reality that human wastewater is degrading Cape estuaries like Little Pond, sending a constant stream of over-enriched waste into the ecosystem. And in Little Pond&#039;s watershed, that human wastewater comes mainly from septic systems.

One cause you mention as an aggravating factor and that the TMDLs fail to grapple with is the elevated temperatures that have been experienced on the Cape and elsewhere throughout the world.  As you may know, July was the hottest month ever recorded.  These elevated temperatures are consistent with scientific models for global warming.  Because CLF is well aware that ecosystem changes brought about by nitrogen over-enrichment can be compounded by elevated temperatures, CLF has challenged the TMDLs--i.e., pollution cleanup plans--approved by EPA specifically because they fail entirely to account for the role that global warming plays in the ecosystem degradation on the Cape.  Thus, one objective of the CLF lawsuits is to force EPA to account for climate science in the TMDL process.

CLF is a member-supported organization.  We have members that live and vacation all along the Cape and they are supporting us in this work.  Furthermore, my colleagues Chris Kilian and Cynthia Liebman have in fact participated over the last few years in forums held on the Cape aimed at finding clean water solutions to the overabundance of human waste that you acknowledge.  More recently, I participated at a clean water forum held in Boston with municipal officials from Cape towns and leaders from the Cape Cod Commission and the Cape Cod Water Protection Collaborative.  Going forward, I expect we will participate in more such discussions about finding the right solutions to the Cape&#039;s water problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Fritz.  The article quotes George Hampson, an Oceanographer from NOAA.  His analysis of the likely source of the nitrogen enrichment responsible for this and other fish kills&#8211;septic systems&#8211;and the explanation of how the ecosystems work is entirely consistent with the conclusions reached in the heavily-detailed, peer-reviewed scientific studies of Little Pond and other impaired estuaries on the Cape completed by the Massachusetts Estuaries Project (MEP) as reflected in the Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDLs) approved by EPA.  CLF has reviewed these closely as they are the subject of our lawsuits.  The &#8220;comprehensive analysis&#8221; spans hundreds of pages so a full recounting on this blog would be impractical, but I encourage you to reach out to the MEP or to EPA if you want to learn more; the TMDLs are also available on the web:<br />
<a href="http://www.mass.gov/dep/water/resources/tmdls.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mass.gov/dep/water/resources/tmdls.htm</a></p>
<p>I think you will find that the analysis in this blog is consistent with the conclusions reached in those scientific reports.  Further, it is consistent with the conclusions of Town officials themselves who are also quoted in the story.</p>
<p>It is entirely likely that fertilizer run-off played a role in the nitrogen overload that led to this fish kill and even more likely that the elevated temperatures played a role too.  The former is among the causes identified in the TMDLs as are the roles of tidal circulation and atmospheric deposition.  As your own comments acknowledge, however, and consistent with the conclusions of scientists at SMAST, MEP, EPA, and NOAA, there is no escaping the reality that human wastewater is degrading Cape estuaries like Little Pond, sending a constant stream of over-enriched waste into the ecosystem. And in Little Pond&#8217;s watershed, that human wastewater comes mainly from septic systems.</p>
<p>One cause you mention as an aggravating factor and that the TMDLs fail to grapple with is the elevated temperatures that have been experienced on the Cape and elsewhere throughout the world.  As you may know, July was the hottest month ever recorded.  These elevated temperatures are consistent with scientific models for global warming.  Because CLF is well aware that ecosystem changes brought about by nitrogen over-enrichment can be compounded by elevated temperatures, CLF has challenged the TMDLs&#8211;i.e., pollution cleanup plans&#8211;approved by EPA specifically because they fail entirely to account for the role that global warming plays in the ecosystem degradation on the Cape.  Thus, one objective of the CLF lawsuits is to force EPA to account for climate science in the TMDL process.</p>
<p>CLF is a member-supported organization.  We have members that live and vacation all along the Cape and they are supporting us in this work.  Furthermore, my colleagues Chris Kilian and Cynthia Liebman have in fact participated over the last few years in forums held on the Cape aimed at finding clean water solutions to the overabundance of human waste that you acknowledge.  More recently, I participated at a clean water forum held in Boston with municipal officials from Cape towns and leaders from the Cape Cod Commission and the Cape Cod Water Protection Collaborative.  Going forward, I expect we will participate in more such discussions about finding the right solutions to the Cape&#8217;s water problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz Lauenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.clf.org/blog/massachusetts/septic-systems-slaughter-stripers-clf-fights-back/#comment-2305</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz Lauenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am, again, struck by the lack of thorough investigating within reporting on CLF&#039;s website. Nowhere in this letter or in the Cape Cod Times is there a &quot;scientist&quot; named or any comprehensive understanding of how our ecosystems work, or the different players in this fish kill. How was the nitrogen attributed to septic systems. Could it have been fertilizer? What role did elevated ambient temps on Cape Cod this summer play in the growth of algae? What kind of algae was it? What about the sporadic influx of rainfall and the flow of tides?
As a concerned citizen and commercial fisherman, I am alarmed by overfishing, climate change and overdevelopment. However our current political system seems to reward organizations that throw grenades into ongoing issues without asking for the hard work that is needed in resolving and understanding them comprehensively. There is a serious problem of how to deal with the overabundance of human feces and urine on Cape Cod just as there is in Boston. So,please CLF, come down to join the local organizations at meetings and get involved in the local conversation or you risk losing the regard and respect of local activists.
A side note: This fish kill pales in comparison to the number of stripers killed by using gaffs on short fish during the short Massachusetts commercial fishing season and by non-commercial fisherman as well. I would also like to know the history of algae blooms in our estuaries and ponds on the Cape. I am not aware that these are outside the scope of historical norms. They may well be but I have no way of knowing.
Fritz Lauenstein]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am, again, struck by the lack of thorough investigating within reporting on CLF&#8217;s website. Nowhere in this letter or in the Cape Cod Times is there a &#8220;scientist&#8221; named or any comprehensive understanding of how our ecosystems work, or the different players in this fish kill. How was the nitrogen attributed to septic systems. Could it have been fertilizer? What role did elevated ambient temps on Cape Cod this summer play in the growth of algae? What kind of algae was it? What about the sporadic influx of rainfall and the flow of tides?<br />
As a concerned citizen and commercial fisherman, I am alarmed by overfishing, climate change and overdevelopment. However our current political system seems to reward organizations that throw grenades into ongoing issues without asking for the hard work that is needed in resolving and understanding them comprehensively. There is a serious problem of how to deal with the overabundance of human feces and urine on Cape Cod just as there is in Boston. So,please CLF, come down to join the local organizations at meetings and get involved in the local conversation or you risk losing the regard and respect of local activists.<br />
A side note: This fish kill pales in comparison to the number of stripers killed by using gaffs on short fish during the short Massachusetts commercial fishing season and by non-commercial fisherman as well. I would also like to know the history of algae blooms in our estuaries and ponds on the Cape. I am not aware that these are outside the scope of historical norms. They may well be but I have no way of knowing.<br />
Fritz Lauenstein</p>
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		<title>By: James Ehlers</title>
		<link>http://www.clf.org/blog/massachusetts/septic-systems-slaughter-stripers-clf-fights-back/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>James Ehlers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice work, Anthony.

Sincerely,
James Ehlers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Anthony.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
James Ehlers</p>
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